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Tuesday, November 6, 2012
The Emergent Church: The Sons of Belial 11/06 by EndXTime Prophecy Watch | Blog Talk Radio
I wish you'd post more on the dangers of the charismatic movement, it is JUST AS heretical as this Emergent Church..
IHOP:(this is NOT the Holy Spirit like they claim) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEBZxRuT8Rw&feature=share&list=UUT9DzagkZFX211ViSwRbTDw
http://youtu.be/q11T6IWg3Jg
John Crowder: http://youtu.be/Ec91wvUY7Yo
Rick Joyner's church: http://youtu.be/4d6Rz6oWgWU
There is more I could send, but I encourage you to look into this yourself.
NOTE: C. Peter Wagner who teaches at Fuller Seminary along side those Emergent church folks, he has headed up a string of these charismatic guys for years (look into it). It's ALL connected, all leading up to the Great Falling Away
Thanks for your comments Sarah. I have posted in the past on my blog on Rick Joyner and John Crowder Drunken Anointing this type of stuff is demonic. On C. Peter Wagner he is way off, he was one of the main people that endorse Todd Bentley, that is a major red flag. Yes your right about all these people being connected to the "Great Falling Away." If get an opportunity look some of the youtube videos by the late Art Katz, he talks about fraudulent anointing, and demonic spirit manifestations of these Charismatic groups.
Dunno if Katz was still associated with Mike Bickel still or not before he died, but he was pretty involved with IHOP there for a while. He taught at IHOP and was pretty involved with the KCP.
Good question. I know that Katz renounced Paul Cain. That group KCP with Bob Jones are a strange bunch! Do you know if John Paul Jackson is still apart of KCP?
To my knowledge KCP split, Bickel started IHOP, Bob Jones floats around everywhere to ministry to ministry guest speaking, Wimber died etc. That said, no, but, he is still active in the charismatic movement, I definitely wouldn't endorse him.
I came out of the charismatic movement, via a Vineyard church and towards the end a church that is an offshoot of John and Carol Arnott's heretical church in Toronto. So exposing this is very near and dear to me. I lost a lot of friends to this movement and now people who I thought were solid are turting Emergent. It weighs pretty heavy on my heart.
Mishel McCumber who has DeceptionBytes.com has a disturbing testimony from her time at Rick Joyner's church, she also did a recent interview on BlogTalk on her time there. If you get a chance to read her entry "Lost notes from Morning Star", she talks of Bob Jones and Rick Joyner and them talking of this whole changing of the DNA to become sinless-hence Adam Kandom theory...
Sarah Leslie, who blogs and edits Herescopeblogspot.com, has done several entries and interviews on a man named Roger Winter who taught at Fuller, and low and behold Rick Warren studied under him. Well, how it ties in to Jones and Joyner, is, evidently Roger Winter, towards the end of his life, was also into this changing DNA so that we can become sinless.
My point is, it's all too coincidental, C. Peter Wagner affiliated with Fuller then heading up just about ALL those charismatic guys, and then the same but yet different plans to destroy the church.
I have heard from guesses, of course none of us know for sure, that the mark of the beast could be some sort of DNA thing (via vaccinations etc), who knows. But if you have the time to watch Mike Hoggard's "Mother of all secrets" teaching on YouTube and while he does not say what I am saying now, but putting ALL the pieces together from these two movements (and also the new agers etc) what he says in the video makes sense, but again we don't know for sure.
Thanks for the info! I checked out Mishel website, some good stuff. You mention your church in Toronto with John and Carol Arnott. Were they connected with the Toronto Blessing/Holy Laughter with Rodney Howard Browne? If so, Browne ironically was endorsed by Luciferian Benjamin Creme when this "hot mess started." What are thoughts on Andrew Strom? I've watched his documentary on the Kundalini Warning on youtube.
Yes, it was their church (the Arnott's) where the Toronto Blessing took place. Doing research recently (am in the process of doing a write up on my web site about my brief time in the charismatic movement) for my testimony, and they were guest speakers at that church (in the sermon I listened to) and they were laughing and carrying on. Not only that, but John Arnott spoke of a story of how the pastor of that church I attended, got hit hard with "the holy ghost" via laughing etc., to the point where he couldn't eat or drive or nothing because the spirit hit him that hard. What bologna!
Yeah Rodney Howard Brown was connected with Toronto. His affiliations with Creme are no surprise, although I never knew that, but its still not surprising nonetheless. Did you ever listen to Mishel's testimony on BlogTalk (its on her site)? She recounts something very very similar to Brown that Joyner is into. That whole movement is very very demonic!
Storm's documentary is accurate, however, I have heard some negative things about him, one of which his motives for exposing the movement. Dunno, if its true, and honestly I wouldn't be suprised if it is, but a few sources have said that he was involved in that movement, via Mike Bickel, and something or other didn't work out and he was rejected, so in essence that was the reason for the expose. I have also heard, again dunno if its true, but from people who were once in the movement, that he is not a very nice person, even heard by someone that there is something off about him.
Honestly, its really hard to say who is truly legite if the're coming out and seeking to gather a following, reason being is, those spirits are very strong. I have seen a few people come out of that movement and attempt to make a name for themselves, so to speak, but yet fall right into another deception. So its hard to say.
Funny example, but bothersome nonetheless, is that guy who runs Revival or Riots. I had seen a video by him where he spoke of coming out of Bill Johnson's church and him leaving that whole movement. Well, I thought he was legite, cause he does speak a lot of truth, well, I had emailed him to see what his ministry was all about. Story short, he still has a lot of that mindset, the high emphasis on healing, except now he embraces Word of Faith doctrine -greasy grace- notably Joseph Prince etc. He doesnt believe in repentance cause "we are perfect". I disagreed with his stance, LOL, this guy went psycho on my and sent me a string of emails rebuking me "Get behind me Satan" lol. Again, this guy has a quite a following, same as Storm, so its hard to say who is legite.
I see my article and website are mentioned above in reference to Rick Joyner's false gospel. I have recently published a book called "The View Beneath" that is part testimony and part expose. It contains some new and alarming information about Rick Joyner and the New Apostolic Reformation at large. It's available on Amazon if anyone is interested in researching it further. Mishel
I wish you'd post more on the dangers of the charismatic movement, it is JUST AS heretical as this Emergent Church..
ReplyDeleteIHOP:(this is NOT the Holy Spirit like they claim)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEBZxRuT8Rw&feature=share&list=UUT9DzagkZFX211ViSwRbTDw
http://youtu.be/q11T6IWg3Jg
John Crowder:
http://youtu.be/Ec91wvUY7Yo
Rick Joyner's church:
http://youtu.be/4d6Rz6oWgWU
There is more I could send, but I encourage you to look into this yourself.
NOTE: C. Peter Wagner who teaches at Fuller Seminary along side those Emergent church folks, he has headed up a string of these charismatic guys for years (look into it). It's ALL connected, all leading up to the Great Falling Away
Thanks for your comments Sarah. I have posted in the past on my blog on Rick Joyner and John Crowder Drunken Anointing this type of stuff is demonic. On C. Peter Wagner he is way off, he was one of the main people that endorse Todd Bentley, that is a major red flag. Yes your right about all these people being connected to the "Great Falling Away." If get an opportunity look some of the youtube videos by the late Art Katz, he talks about fraudulent anointing, and demonic spirit manifestations of these Charismatic groups.
DeleteDunno if Katz was still associated with Mike Bickel still or not before he died, but he was pretty involved with IHOP there for a while. He taught at IHOP and was pretty involved with the KCP.
ReplyDeleteGood question. I know that Katz renounced Paul Cain. That group KCP with Bob Jones are a strange bunch! Do you know if John Paul Jackson is still apart of KCP?
DeleteTo my knowledge KCP split, Bickel started IHOP, Bob Jones floats around everywhere to ministry to ministry guest speaking, Wimber died etc. That said, no, but, he is still active in the charismatic movement, I definitely wouldn't endorse him.
DeleteI came out of the charismatic movement, via a Vineyard church and towards the end a church that is an offshoot of John and Carol Arnott's heretical church in Toronto. So exposing this is very near and dear to me. I lost a lot of friends to this movement and now people who I thought were solid are turting Emergent. It weighs pretty heavy on my heart.
Mishel McCumber who has DeceptionBytes.com has a disturbing testimony from her time at Rick Joyner's church, she also did a recent interview on BlogTalk on her time there. If you get a chance to read her entry "Lost notes from Morning Star", she talks of Bob Jones and Rick Joyner and them talking of this whole changing of the DNA to become sinless-hence Adam Kandom theory...
Sarah Leslie, who blogs and edits Herescopeblogspot.com, has done several entries and interviews on a man named Roger Winter who taught at Fuller, and low and behold Rick Warren studied under him. Well, how it ties in to Jones and Joyner, is, evidently Roger Winter, towards the end of his life, was also into this changing DNA so that we can become sinless.
My point is, it's all too coincidental, C. Peter Wagner affiliated with Fuller then heading up just about ALL those charismatic guys, and then the same but yet different plans to destroy the church.
I have heard from guesses, of course none of us know for sure, that the mark of the beast could be some sort of DNA thing (via vaccinations etc), who knows. But if you have the time to watch Mike Hoggard's "Mother of all secrets" teaching on YouTube and while he does not say what I am saying now, but putting ALL the pieces together from these two movements (and also the new agers etc) what he says in the video makes sense, but again we don't know for sure.
Thanks for the info! I checked out Mishel website, some good stuff. You mention your church in Toronto with John and Carol Arnott. Were they connected with the Toronto Blessing/Holy Laughter with Rodney Howard Browne? If so, Browne ironically was endorsed by Luciferian Benjamin Creme when this "hot mess started." What are thoughts on Andrew Strom? I've watched his documentary on the Kundalini Warning on youtube.
DeleteYes, it was their church (the Arnott's) where the Toronto Blessing took place. Doing research recently (am in the process of doing a write up on my web site about my brief time in the charismatic movement) for my testimony, and they were guest speakers at that church (in the sermon I listened to) and they were laughing and carrying on. Not only that, but John Arnott spoke of a story of how the pastor of that church I attended, got hit hard with "the holy ghost" via laughing etc., to the point where he couldn't eat or drive or nothing because the spirit hit him that hard. What bologna!
DeleteYeah Rodney Howard Brown was connected with Toronto. His affiliations with Creme are no surprise, although I never knew that, but its still not surprising nonetheless. Did you ever listen to Mishel's testimony on BlogTalk (its on her site)? She recounts something very very similar to Brown that Joyner is into. That whole movement is very very demonic!
Storm's documentary is accurate, however, I have heard some negative things about him, one of which his motives for exposing the movement. Dunno, if its true, and honestly I wouldn't be suprised if it is, but a few sources have said that he was involved in that movement, via Mike Bickel, and something or other didn't work out and he was rejected, so in essence that was the reason for the expose. I have also heard, again dunno if its true, but from people who were once in the movement, that he is not a very nice person, even heard by someone that there is something off about him.
Honestly, its really hard to say who is truly legite if the're coming out and seeking to gather a following, reason being is, those spirits are very strong. I have seen a few people come out of that movement and attempt to make a name for themselves, so to speak, but yet fall right into another deception. So its hard to say.
Funny example, but bothersome nonetheless, is that guy who runs Revival or Riots. I had seen a video by him where he spoke of coming out of Bill Johnson's church and him leaving that whole movement. Well, I thought he was legite, cause he does speak a lot of truth, well, I had emailed him to see what his ministry was all about. Story short, he still has a lot of that mindset, the high emphasis on healing, except now he embraces Word of Faith doctrine -greasy grace- notably Joseph Prince etc. He doesnt believe in repentance cause "we are perfect". I disagreed with his stance, LOL, this guy went psycho on my and sent me a string of emails rebuking me "Get behind me Satan" lol. Again, this guy has a quite a following, same as Storm, so its hard to say who is legite.
Please read the story we did on False Prophet and False Teachers are Serial Killers.
ReplyDeletehttp://endtimeshofar.blogspot.com/2012/03/false-prophets-and-teachers-are-serial.html
Thank you I will
DeleteBy chance do you have any links/documentation on Browne's affiliations with Creme?
DeleteYou can email me 1blacksheepblogs@gmail.com
I see my article and website are mentioned above in reference to Rick Joyner's false gospel. I have recently published a book called "The View Beneath" that is part testimony and part expose. It contains some new and alarming information about Rick Joyner and the New Apostolic Reformation at large. It's available on Amazon if anyone is interested in researching it further. Mishel
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