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Sunday, February 12, 2012

Joel Osteen Said Mormons are Christians! True or False?


It very obvious that Pastor Joel Osteen can make millions of dollars selling his feel good motivational books, and his ability to fill up an arena on Wednesday nights and Sunday morning with his church members. However, when it comes to his theological soundness and standing on sound doctrine he is seriously lacking. Back at it again with his inability to stand on sound doctrine, Osteen said that Mormons are Christians in his response about Republican Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney a Mormon not being a Christian.  He stated Romney is his Christian brother.  I hate to tell you Joel, but Mormons are no closer to being Christians than let's say a Satanist, Wicca, Shaman, Buddhist, and Hindu.  We"re seeing a growing trend of ecumenical dance with prominent Christian personalities such as Osteen's statements that Mormons are Christians, and Christian television networks such as TBN and Daystar broadcasting Glenn Beck (Mormon) as he endorses Mormonism as just another branch of Christianity.  Let's examine the truth and facts from a biblical perspective that Mormonism isn't Christianity, and never will be.


Mormonism Occult Origins



The Mormon Church was founded by Joseph Smith who was a 33rd degree freemason.  He was heavily involved in the occult arts such as astrology, ritual magic, crystal gazing, seer stones, and divining rods (source).Smith was also into spiritualism in which a person is in contact with the dead and with other spirit entities to obtain information or knowledge through the occult. 

Joseph Smith claims that an angel Moroni gave him the revelation for the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine of Covenants, and The Pearl of Great Price.   Supposedly Moroni's father, Mormon, a Nephite historian-prophet,wrote the history of the Jews/Nephites who came from Jerusalem to ancient America in 600 B.C.-385 A.D.  Moroni added his words to the book then hid it.  Supposedly in these gold plates, it is written that Jesus appeared in America and spent time with the Nephites after his resurrection.  Shortly afterwards, the Nephite people were wiped out in a war against the Lamanites (principal ancestors of the Native Americans). After his death, Moroni was resurrected as an angel.  In September 21, 1823 Moroni appeared to Joseph Smith in New York ,gave him gold plates, and instructed him to translate the gold plates into English.  This is the origin of the Book of Mormon.

Ironocally the name Mormo is is listed in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible in the listing page of "Infernal Names." It states that Mormo is the god of the ghouls, and his followers would be Mormons (source 1/ source).


Mormonism Has Elements of Gnosticism

Mormonism does possess some elements of gnostictism (source/source). In June 8, 1873, while preaching from the pulpit of the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City, Utah Brigham Young declared:

"The devil told the truth... I do not blame Mother Eve. I would not have had her miss eating the forbidden fruit for anything in the world... They must pass through the same ordeals as the Gods, that they may know good from evil... Through the gift of sin, humanity can achieve godhood (source ; source)."

This is completely contray to what John 8:44 says: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." It calls the devil the father of lies and a murderer.  This is because his intent in the Garden of Eden was to spiritually murder both Adam and Eve by getting them to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.  Adam and Eve died spiritually and that death did not result in them becoming gods as the Devil told them in Genesis 3:5.  It was a lie.  Brigham Young's statements and writings regarding the fall of man and the serpent in garden helping Adam and Eve to realize they're gods mirrors gnosticism.  It sees the serpent/Satan as the good guy helping mankind realize the god within themselves (source).


What Mormons Believe



Mormons believe in millions of gods. Mormons long to become a a god. They don't long to spend eternity with Jesus Christ (source).
Biblical response: Isaiah 45:5-12. G-d said their is no other god, but Him.

They teach that man is a god in embryo, and may attain exaltation to godhood as the heavenly father has(source).
Biblical response: Psalm 51:5. Were born as sinners, not gods.

They believe in an eternal mother who engages in sex with the heavenly father to create human spirits. She is the wife of God (source).
Biblical response: Ezekieal 18:4. G-d is the Creator of all things, all the souls belong to Him.

Mormons believe Jesus was a polygamist who was married to Mary and Martha at the same time.  They also believe that God the Father is polygamist (source).
Biblical response: The Bible never states that Jesus was married to Mary and Martha. This is a gnostic doctrine. G-d the Father creates.  He does not procreate.

Mormonism holds the belief that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.  Both are the elder brothers of heaven and were produced by God through a sexual union (source, source).
Biblical response: John 1:14 and John 3:16. Jesus is the only begotten son of the Father.

Mormons don't believe in virgin birth of Jesus Christ.  They believe Mary had sex with God the Father. They believed Mary was married both to God and Joseph (source).
Biblical response: Matthew 1:23 and Isaiah 7:14. Marry was a virgin that gave birth to Jesus.

They believe God was once a man of flesh and bones and that someday we can become a god over our own universe (source).
Biblical response: John 4:24. G-d is spirit, we must worship Him in spirit and in truth.

Mormons believe that some sins are so bad that the blood of Jesus can't atone for sins.  Instead, a person must shed their own blood for atonement (source).
Biblical response: Matthew 26:28. Only Jesus' blood was shed for remission of all sins and it marks a new covenant.

Baptism of the dead is another doctrine in Mormonism.  A Mormon can be baptized in place of their dead ancestors or friends so that these dead friends or family members can become Mormons (source).

Biblical response: Hebrews 9:27. Man is appointed once to die, then the judgment. The Bible doesn't speak about karma or purgatory.


Pastor Joel Please Study to Show Yourself Approved

Another wild doctrinal belief Mormons hold is that salvation is only through Joseph Smith, and that while Blacks are created inferior, Whites are created superior (source, source).  Lastly, they do not believe in the Godhead (source/source).  To you Pastor Osteen:  Mormons aren't Christians.  Please make sure you study before you speak in order to make sure your doctrine is sound.  Overall, Mormon doctrine isn'teven remotely biblically based.
The Christian Church of America has to beware of entering into ecumenical movement towards a one world church.  If a religious institution does nott line up with the overall authority of "The Word of God," then flee. Don't allow yourself to be seduced by evil spirits into false doctrine.  And please, don't make covenants with Mormons.